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Bob

Would you kindly share the source of the Luther quote?
Thank you.

Dauidr

Hi, Chris. I enjoyed reading your post here. I think you saw the same trend in that gal from Westboro Baptis as you do in the purpose driven crowd. The solution for both is the same: "Obey!" They approach it from different angles, to an extent. Yet, they both fail to rely on Christ Jesus whose forgiveness covers our sins and whose grace turns our heavenly Father's eye upon us in favor. As the stalwart hymn declares, "The Law is but a mirror bright to bring the inbred sin to light that lurks within our nature." Thanks be to God, He gives us the solution in His Sole-Begotten Son. "Salvation unto us has come by God's free grace and favor."

Chris Rosebrough

Bob,

The source for this quote is the Saint Louis Edition of the Works of Luther IX:863 f. on 1 Tim. 1:3–4.

Unfortunately, that edition is in German. However, Francis Pieper quotes this in Christian Dogmatics in Volume 1 in his discussion on Divisions of Christian Doctrine Section C on Open Questions and Theological Problems.

I hope that helps.

j_spuds

The one thing Luther had right, which many of Lutherans have lost today is the proper distinction between law and Gospel:

There are two hindrances to the Gospel: the first is teaching false doctrine, driving the consciences into the Law and works.

Heb 7:18 (when discussing the New Covenant)

18The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless 19(for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God.

28For the law appoints as high priests men who are weak; but the oath, which came after the law, appointed the Son, who has been made perfect forever.

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